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In the words of Neil Young, off "Fork in the Road", "Truth is fiction, truth is lies, strange things happen when worlds collide..."

Weird things happen when you're cycling through fandoms at hyperspeed so you can get back to actual work! You know how fandom seems multitudinous and labyrinthian at first blush? Then you run across familiar people -- [personal profile] leici commenting on an old U2 story, [profile] otherbella popping up in Hunger Games fandom, discovering that [personal profile] twistedchick, the lady for whom I was writing a Yuletide treat, was a friend of my beta for that self-same story, [personal profile] cinco -- and suddenly there are intricate connections across fandoms where you least expect them :)

And of course, out of those different fandoms comes the crossover fic ideas :)

To wit: in Inception fandom, I've been stalled on the Anthemic-as-Inception-team idea for ages (c'mon, who doesn't wanna see DCook as scene-chewing Extractor DCobb?), and Part II of Tommy Solomon-and-crew-incept-Archie elevator!fic is still at the planning stage :(

Over at The Hunger Games, it's easy to picture Cook and Archie as Finnick Odair and his beloved Annie, or to imagine the Quarter Quell kids getting their golden tickets to Captiol Hollywood, and singing for their lives on the Idol stage -- where they meet Haymitch as Simon Cowell and Snow as evil 19E Network producer Simon Fuller (and Caesar Flickerman as their host, Ryan Seacrest!); Peeta and Katniss sing Marly's "The Letter"/Kradam's We are the Champions and Finnick sings DCook's "Sharp Dressed Man" - and in a nailbiting photo-finish, the number of votes cast for the top two are exactly the same and there are two American Idols crowned! I kinda want to write that :)

Where worlds collide there are duets, too, of course. [personal profile] evilgeniuslady reminded me of the epic 80s Springsteen/Sting duet on "The River", and how epic it was. Magnificent, and magnificently slashy, these classic rockers in their glorious youth singing each other's words and getting up close and personal in each other's space:

Then Bruce repaid Sting's nuanced, brilliant take on "The River" by shouldering Sting's arm and the famous stalkerific vibe of the Police's "Every Breath You Take", all the while looking like he'd like to lock lips with and draw breath from the mighty Summoner :)

My new/revived fandom crush, U2, has also dueted awesomely with both Springsteen as well as Sting, and in my brain they make a worlds-colliding OT3/OT6 of awesome. Here they are in Philadelphia with Bruce, taking on "People Get Ready":

And the virtuoso "Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For", from their 2007 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame outing: "I'm looking for the Boss!" said Bono, gesturing meaningfully, and Bruce indeed stepped up to the mic and in close to the other B., but not before he dallied and traded guitar licks with the obviously smitten Edge:

Check how the Edge grins helplessly and has to hold himself back from fanboying Bruce :) U2 adore the Boss so much they sang Springsteen's "She’s the One" on his 60th birthday, during the 2009 leg of their 360 Degrees Tour – changing it up to "He's the one," of course :) LOVE.

U2 has somewhat less of a connection with Sir Gordon, but Bono did have a celebrated outing with the Police during the "Invisible Sun" in the 1986 Amnesty International concert:

Sting's return engagement was on "One", though I haven't managed to find vid of it - maybe some handy person on my f-list can help :) Vocals awesome, though!

ETA: There is Sting/Bono slashiness on 1984's "Do They Know It's Christmas", where they share a vocal line - 'And the Christmas bells that ring there, are the clanging chimes of doom' - WITH ADDED DURAN DURAN/SLB COLLIDING HOTNESS, WHICH IS ALWAYS WELCOME XD

Things do get a little sketchy, though, where RL collides with fandom. I have no problems with the idea of celeb RPF - actors and musicians and entertainment and sports personalities are public figures, and as such they sign on to a certain amout of stanning and fair play in re: those public images. Reclusive Harvard figures and businessmen may however not be quite the same kettle of fish, and although I've followed The Social Network fandom and the Mark/Eduardo fic with interest, I have always felt there's a difference.

Andrew Garfield and Jesse Eisenberg as Savarin and Zuckenberg in The Social Network, image owned by Columbia Pictures

Anyways, I found out at dinner Saturday night that Hub's (lithe, hot, 21-y.o.) second cousin who works at Large International Bank, apparently parties with Savarin at, inter alia, an Island hotspot of some note. It seems the guy is lying low here on the Island post-movie and is cutting a bit of a swathe through the local scene?

I must say my first fannish instinct was to consider asking Hot Young Cousin for an introduction (which I would only use For Good, of course~!), but my better sense prevailed. Dude didn't ask to be stanned, let alone bombarded by questions about his deep, dark feelings about the ex-best friend who, from some accounts, screwed him over, and whom fandom would impute desires of another similar and even baser nature?

Also: I suspect when RL and fandom intersect, fanfic will always give the more satisfying answer :)

This entry was originally posted on dreamwidth; you can choose to read it there.

Date: 2011-03-01 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Since my revising has ground to a halt, I stop by for entertainment!! Some of those videos, I have never seen! The Springsteen/U2 ones OMG ♥ And THE BAND AID VIDEO. BRB TIME TRAVELING TO 1984 AND CHECKING OUT MY HAIR/OUTFIT. How traumatic that would be :)

I LOOOOVE your Hunger Games/Idol crossover idea!!! That seems PLAUSIBLE, even...NEXT YEAR, IDOL EXECUTES WHOEVER GETS KICKED OFF THAT NIGHT!! I won't lie, there have been times where I would have welcomed it =/

Date: 2011-03-02 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
C'mon, you'd totally watch the Idol Games, right? It'd take Collins' metaphor about the reality show popularity contest to its logical extremes. Also, we'd get to write Finnick singing :)

I really only made this post so I would have all my favorite duet vids in one place. That Band Aid one, though, I had never seen before! And the Springsteen/U2 one makes me ;__; also, ngl XD

Date: 2011-03-01 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I ADORE the U2/Springsteen ISHFWILF duet. <3

Date: 2011-03-02 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I love it too, and it totally makes me emotional each time I watch it!
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Date: 2011-03-02 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I adore that song, and I would ship those two together SO HARD :)

Date: 2011-03-01 11:35 pm (UTC)
ext_49544: cookleta (anime - pokemon - ratachu & piichuu)
From: [identity profile]
All I've got is: yes.

Date: 2011-03-02 07:31 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-03-02 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I've been told that when Saverin is asked about what his involvement with Facebook is, he simply states that he develops Facebook games. And that he's been in Singapore since before the movie came out.

Also, Jesse Eisenberg and Andrew Garfield make a better picture in my head. XD

Date: 2011-03-02 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Yeah, the story as told to me by HYC is that he came out here to lie low once he was told about the movie (he is apparently friends with well-known Indonesian Chinese scion who based here).

IMO, Garfield is a talented and attractive young man who deserves his place on the Hollywood A list :)

Date: 2011-03-02 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
OHHHH TSN. It's like ... lapped the FPS/RPS divide or something. Here's the thing for me. The movie is based on a book that was inspired by real events, but by no means intended to be a totally reliable accounting of the facts. I liked the movie as a story, and I enjoyed the characters played by Andrew Garfield and Jesse Eisenberg.

Of course I naturally have some curiosity about what really happened, but I DO NOT want to read about actual Mark Zuckerberg and Eduardo Saverin. Because truth be told I know very little about them. And I'm always mildly squicked when I start reading a fic only to discover partway through that it's about the real people rather than the characters (which tends to come about because the fic references the movie coming out).

Honestly, it just doesn't work for me on a logical level to base your characterizations off the movie, and then work backwards and suppose that those characterizations can be applied to the actual people and then talk about how those people responded to their characterization in a movie upon which you based your writing in the first place! Does it make your brain hurt? It does mine.

Ummm ... yes. IDK, I have some thoughts. Way to go you for taking the high road, though, because I'm not sure I would have had that strength ;-)

Date: 2011-03-02 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
It was hard to take the high road! But IAAL before I am a fanfic writer, and a human being above all; also RPF raises enough questions about the ownership of a person's public image, and the right to freedom from prurient speculation and stanning. IMO, a person who didn't ask to be a public figure, a person who specifically values his privacy, has more basis to complain about being stanned and having fic written with his name attached to it.

Also, as you say, it's much more satisfying if you see this as fic based on the guys in the movie as portrayed by Garfield and Eisenberg.

I actually have questions of a legal nature that were raised by the movie (what allowed Zuck to selectively dilute Savarin's shares? Did he get issued class-B shares with specific in-built kickers, or does California state law allow for non-pari passu dilution or buyback (like Cayman and BVI jurisdictions?). But I figured it's be inappropriate for me to trouble Savarin with those queries. If I wasn't afraid it might out me as a fangirl, I'd sit down with US lawyers one of these days and have a TSN-related talk :)

Date: 2011-03-02 08:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Crossovers! I have had ~ideas, but I'm always afraid to do them because I fear where Doctor Who crosses Cookleta is possibly a thin sliver of audience. Haha. For example.

THE BOSS. Oh man. ♥_♥ is all. (Hmm, Born in the USA!Cookleta. Where Cook meets that album cover. Oh yes. [And Archie... um, "admires" said art work. WHAT? Who said that??])

Date: 2011-03-02 09:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Well, you know I'd totally read your Dr Who/Cookleta crossover :)

I LOVE BRUCE, what can I say :)

Date: 2011-03-08 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Yaaay! One audience member secured!

Okay, but seriously, Born in the USA:

Date: 2011-03-08 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Ahaha, A+++

Date: 2011-03-02 08:51 am (UTC)
ext_96480: (Hair)
From: [identity profile]
Oh my gosh, I want that Inception crossover, it sounds like a fantastic idea! Also, I'm currently reading The Mortal Instruments trilogy right now, but after that, I have Hunger Games waiting for me.

As for the duets, I actually watched the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame anniversary concert on... HBO, or something like that, and I loved it. It was amazing and it made me want to watch it all over again.

Also, I thought Savarin lived in Singapore and had been? You have a point about them not signing up for all this, and I notice a lot of people disclaiming that their work is based on the fictional TSN versions of Mark and Eduardo, rather than the actual people. The movie does make people wonder, however, about several things. It would be nice to hear the story in his own words, but he's probably getting tired of it by now.

Date: 2011-03-02 09:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I'll hazard a positive opinion to say, you will love the Hunger Games! Every single person I know who's read it has enjoyed, and that ranges from Daughter and her friends to highfalutin' English Literature PhDs. It's really clever, and a terrific, accessible read.

That U2/Bruce duet is my new favorite thing. TT__TT forever :)

I am told that Savarin relocated out here to lie low once he was told about the movie, but that may or may not be accurate? He's pretty low key, but he seems to have developed a rep for partying, IDEK.

Date: 2011-03-09 12:58 am (UTC)
ext_96480: (Butterflies; you give me)
From: [identity profile]
Wow, that sounds impressive. I actually had my Mom pick it up for me because another friend of mine recommended it, saying that she kept having friends borrow it and love it.

I haven't really researched into him, so I can't really say either way. I will admit you've made me very curious, however.

Date: 2011-03-12 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I hope you're enjoying the Hunger Games! And, omg, it took a lot of willpower to not demand huge details about Savarin! But I decided to take the high road :)

Date: 2011-03-02 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I love everything about this post. And I'm excited to read crossovers such as Inception-Anthemic (whattup, that is such a nice thing to picture.

Social Network <3333333

Date: 2011-03-02 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Hey hey :) So many crossover ideas, so little time <3 And, The Social Network! I wanna love, and yet how weird is it that the guy lives here, c'mon. NOBODY lives here!

Date: 2011-03-03 11:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Also: I suspect when RL and fandom intersect, fanfic will always give the more satisfying answer :)

I'm pretty sure this is the case. ;)

Also, I love when you run into familiar "faces" in other fandoms. It makes me gleeful. :)

Date: 2011-03-04 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Ah, fantasy usually >>> reality :)

And what other fandoms are you into now? I remember you liked LoTR :)

Date: 2011-03-04 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Oh, definitely.

I'm also really into the BBC show Merlin's fandom and kind of into the ABC show Castle's fandom (though that one is tiiiiny and not terribly active if you don't ship het). :)

Date: 2011-03-04 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Ah, I'm somewhat of an Arthurian snob, and the Merlin-lite-reboot doesn't really work for me - though Anthony Steward Head is kind of magnificent in it :) The fic seems pretty awesome, though!

We don't get Castle over here, so I'm not familiar with it, though I know [ profile] frackin_sweet watches, like you :)

Date: 2011-03-04 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I usually am but there's something about this show. It's just so adorable and slashy and I forgive it for so many things. The fic is fantastic though. :)

It's a cute little mystery show with great character writing too so I love it. :)

Date: 2011-03-05 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Well, it is kind of cute, even though the CGI dragon annoys me to death :)



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