Post: When Fandom Worlds Collide
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labyrinth2015In the words of Neil Young, off "Fork in the Road", "Truth is fiction, truth is lies, strange things happen when worlds collide..."
Weird things happen when you're cycling through fandoms at hyperspeed so you can get back to actual work! You know how fandom seems multitudinous and labyrinthian at first blush? Then you run across familiar people --![[personal profile]](https://s.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
leici commenting on an old U2 story, otherbella popping up in Hunger Games fandom, discovering that twistedchick, the lady for whom I was writing a Yuletide treat, was a friend of my beta for that self-same story, cinco -- and suddenly there are intricate connections across fandoms where you least expect them :)
And of course, out of those different fandoms comes the crossover fic ideas :)
To wit: in Inception fandom, I've been stalled on the Anthemic-as-Inception-team idea for ages (c'mon, who doesn't wanna see DCook as scene-chewing Extractor DCobb?), and Part II of Tommy Solomon-and-crew-incept-Archie elevator!fic is still at the planning stage :(
Over at The Hunger Games, it's easy to picture Cook and Archie as Finnick Odair and his beloved Annie, or to imagine the Quarter Quell kids getting their golden tickets toCaptiol Hollywood, and singing for their lives on the Idol stage -- where they meet Haymitch as Simon Cowell and Snow as evil 19E Network producer Simon Fuller (and Caesar Flickerman as their host, Ryan Seacrest!); Peeta and Katniss sing Marly's "The Letter"/Kradam's We are the Champions and Finnick sings DCook's "Sharp Dressed Man" - and in a nailbiting photo-finish, the number of votes cast for the top two are exactly the same and there are two American Idols crowned! I kinda want to write that :)
Where worlds collide there are duets, too, of course.evilgeniuslady reminded me of the epic 80s Springsteen/Sting duet on "The River", and how epic it was. Magnificent, and magnificently slashy, these classic rockers in their glorious youth singing each other's words and getting up close and personal in each other's space:
Then Bruce repaid Sting's nuanced, brilliant take on "The River" by shouldering Sting's arm and the famous stalkerific vibe of the Police's "Every Breath You Take", all the while looking like he'd like to lock lips with and draw breath from the mighty Summoner :)
My new/revived fandom crush, U2, has also dueted awesomely with both Springsteen as well as Sting, and in my brain they make a worlds-colliding OT3/OT6 of awesome. Here they are in Philadelphia with Bruce, taking on "People Get Ready":
And the virtuoso "Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For", from their 2007 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame outing: "I'm looking for the Boss!" said Bono, gesturing meaningfully, and Bruce indeed stepped up to the mic and in close to the other B., but not before he dallied and traded guitar licks with the obviously smitten Edge:
Check how the Edge grins helplessly and has to hold himself back from fanboying Bruce :) U2 adore the Boss so much they sang Springsteen's "She’s the One" on his 60th birthday, during the 2009 leg of their 360 Degrees Tour – changing it up to "He's the one," of course :) LOVE.
U2 has somewhat less of a connection with Sir Gordon, but Bono did have a celebrated outing with the Police during the "Invisible Sun" in the 1986 Amnesty International concert:
Sting's return engagement was on "One", though I haven't managed to find vid of it - maybe some handy person on my f-list can help :) Vocals awesome, though!
ETA: There is Sting/Bono slashiness on 1984's "Do They Know It's Christmas", where they share a vocal line - 'And the Christmas bells that ring there, are the clanging chimes of doom' - WITH ADDED DURAN DURAN/SLB COLLIDING HOTNESS, WHICH IS ALWAYS WELCOME XD
Things do get a little sketchy, though, where RL collides with fandom. I have no problems with the idea of celeb RPF - actors and musicians and entertainment and sports personalities are public figures, and as such they sign on to a certain amout of stanning and fair play in re: those public images. Reclusive Harvard figures and businessmen may however not be quite the same kettle of fish, and although I've followed The Social Network fandom and the Mark/Eduardo fic with interest, I have always felt there's a difference.
Andrew Garfield and Jesse Eisenberg as Savarin and Zuckenberg in The Social Network, image owned by Columbia Pictures
Anyways, I found out at dinner Saturday night that Hub's (lithe, hot, 21-y.o.) second cousin who works at Large International Bank, apparently parties with Savarin at, inter alia, an Island hotspot of some note. It seems the guy is lying low here on the Island post-movie and is cutting a bit of a swathe through the local scene?
I must say my first fannish instinct was to consider asking Hot Young Cousin for an introduction (which I would only use For Good, of course~!), but my better sense prevailed. Dude didn't ask to be stanned, let alone bombarded by questions about his deep, dark feelings about the ex-best friend who, from some accounts, screwed him over, and whom fandom would impute desires of another similar and even baser nature?
Also: I suspect when RL and fandom intersect, fanfic will always give the more satisfying answer :)
This entry was originally posted on dreamwidth; you can choose to read it there.
Weird things happen when you're cycling through fandoms at hyperspeed so you can get back to actual work! You know how fandom seems multitudinous and labyrinthian at first blush? Then you run across familiar people --
leici commenting on an old U2 story, otherbella popping up in Hunger Games fandom, discovering that twistedchick, the lady for whom I was writing a Yuletide treat, was a friend of my beta for that self-same story, cinco -- and suddenly there are intricate connections across fandoms where you least expect them :) And of course, out of those different fandoms comes the crossover fic ideas :)
To wit: in Inception fandom, I've been stalled on the Anthemic-as-Inception-team idea for ages (c'mon, who doesn't wanna see DCook as scene-chewing Extractor DCobb?), and Part II of Tommy Solomon-and-crew-incept-Archie elevator!fic is still at the planning stage :(
Over at The Hunger Games, it's easy to picture Cook and Archie as Finnick Odair and his beloved Annie, or to imagine the Quarter Quell kids getting their golden tickets to
Where worlds collide there are duets, too, of course.
evilgeniuslady reminded me of the epic 80s Springsteen/Sting duet on "The River", and how epic it was. Magnificent, and magnificently slashy, these classic rockers in their glorious youth singing each other's words and getting up close and personal in each other's space:Then Bruce repaid Sting's nuanced, brilliant take on "The River" by shouldering Sting's arm and the famous stalkerific vibe of the Police's "Every Breath You Take", all the while looking like he'd like to lock lips with and draw breath from the mighty Summoner :)
My new/revived fandom crush, U2, has also dueted awesomely with both Springsteen as well as Sting, and in my brain they make a worlds-colliding OT3/OT6 of awesome. Here they are in Philadelphia with Bruce, taking on "People Get Ready":
And the virtuoso "Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For", from their 2007 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame outing: "I'm looking for the Boss!" said Bono, gesturing meaningfully, and Bruce indeed stepped up to the mic and in close to the other B., but not before he dallied and traded guitar licks with the obviously smitten Edge:
Check how the Edge grins helplessly and has to hold himself back from fanboying Bruce :) U2 adore the Boss so much they sang Springsteen's "She’s the One" on his 60th birthday, during the 2009 leg of their 360 Degrees Tour – changing it up to "He's the one," of course :) LOVE.
U2 has somewhat less of a connection with Sir Gordon, but Bono did have a celebrated outing with the Police during the "Invisible Sun" in the 1986 Amnesty International concert:
Sting's return engagement was on "One", though I haven't managed to find vid of it - maybe some handy person on my f-list can help :) Vocals awesome, though!
ETA: There is Sting/Bono slashiness on 1984's "Do They Know It's Christmas", where they share a vocal line - 'And the Christmas bells that ring there, are the clanging chimes of doom' - WITH ADDED DURAN DURAN/SLB COLLIDING HOTNESS, WHICH IS ALWAYS WELCOME XD
Things do get a little sketchy, though, where RL collides with fandom. I have no problems with the idea of celeb RPF - actors and musicians and entertainment and sports personalities are public figures, and as such they sign on to a certain amout of stanning and fair play in re: those public images. Reclusive Harvard figures and businessmen may however not be quite the same kettle of fish, and although I've followed The Social Network fandom and the Mark/Eduardo fic with interest, I have always felt there's a difference.
Andrew Garfield and Jesse Eisenberg as Savarin and Zuckenberg in The Social Network, image owned by Columbia Pictures
Anyways, I found out at dinner Saturday night that Hub's (lithe, hot, 21-y.o.) second cousin who works at Large International Bank, apparently parties with Savarin at, inter alia, an Island hotspot of some note. It seems the guy is lying low here on the Island post-movie and is cutting a bit of a swathe through the local scene?
I must say my first fannish instinct was to consider asking Hot Young Cousin for an introduction (which I would only use For Good, of course~!), but my better sense prevailed. Dude didn't ask to be stanned, let alone bombarded by questions about his deep, dark feelings about the ex-best friend who, from some accounts, screwed him over, and whom fandom would impute desires of another similar and even baser nature?
Also: I suspect when RL and fandom intersect, fanfic will always give the more satisfying answer :)
This entry was originally posted on dreamwidth; you can choose to read it there.
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Date: 2011-03-01 05:27 pm (UTC)I LOOOOVE your Hunger Games/Idol crossover idea!!! That seems PLAUSIBLE, even...NEXT YEAR, IDOL EXECUTES WHOEVER GETS KICKED OFF THAT NIGHT!! I won't lie, there have been times where I would have welcomed it =/
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Date: 2011-03-02 04:01 am (UTC)I really only made this post so I would have all my favorite duet vids in one place. That Band Aid one, though, I had never seen before! And the Springsteen/U2 one makes me ;__; also, ngl XD
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Date: 2011-03-02 12:46 am (UTC)Also, Jesse Eisenberg and Andrew Garfield make a better picture in my head. XD
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Date: 2011-03-02 07:33 am (UTC)IMO, Garfield is a talented and attractive young man who deserves his place on the Hollywood A list :)
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Date: 2011-03-02 04:30 am (UTC)Of course I naturally have some curiosity about what really happened, but I DO NOT want to read about actual Mark Zuckerberg and Eduardo Saverin. Because truth be told I know very little about them. And I'm always mildly squicked when I start reading a fic only to discover partway through that it's about the real people rather than the characters (which tends to come about because the fic references the movie coming out).
Honestly, it just doesn't work for me on a logical level to base your characterizations off the movie, and then work backwards and suppose that those characterizations can be applied to the actual people and then talk about how those people responded to their characterization in a movie upon which you based your writing in the first place! Does it make your brain hurt? It does mine.
Ummm ... yes. IDK, I have some thoughts. Way to go you for taking the high road, though, because I'm not sure I would have had that strength ;-)
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Date: 2011-03-02 09:23 am (UTC)Also, as you say, it's much more satisfying if you see this as fic based on the guys in the movie as portrayed by Garfield and Eisenberg.
I actually have questions of a legal nature that were raised by the movie (what allowed Zuck to selectively dilute Savarin's shares? Did he get issued class-B shares with specific in-built kickers, or does California state law allow for non-pari passu dilution or buyback (like Cayman and BVI jurisdictions?). But I figured it's be inappropriate for me to trouble Savarin with those queries. If I wasn't afraid it might out me as a fangirl, I'd sit down with US lawyers one of these days and have a TSN-related talk :)
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Date: 2011-03-02 08:23 am (UTC)THE BOSS. Oh man. ♥_♥ is all. (Hmm, Born in the USA!Cookleta. Where Cook meets that album cover. Oh yes. [And Archie... um, "admires" said art work. WHAT? Who said that??])
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Date: 2011-03-02 09:35 am (UTC)I LOVE BRUCE, what can I say :)
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Date: 2011-03-08 01:49 am (UTC)Okay, but seriously, Born in the USA:
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Date: 2011-03-02 08:51 am (UTC)As for the duets, I actually watched the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame anniversary concert on... HBO, or something like that, and I loved it. It was amazing and it made me want to watch it all over again.
Also, I thought Savarin lived in Singapore and had been? You have a point about them not signing up for all this, and I notice a lot of people disclaiming that their work is based on the fictional TSN versions of Mark and Eduardo, rather than the actual people. The movie does make people wonder, however, about several things. It would be nice to hear the story in his own words, but he's probably getting tired of it by now.
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Date: 2011-03-02 09:48 am (UTC)That U2/Bruce duet is my new favorite thing. TT__TT forever :)
I am told that Savarin relocated out here to lie low once he was told about the movie, but that may or may not be accurate? He's pretty low key, but he seems to have developed a rep for partying, IDEK.
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Date: 2011-03-09 12:58 am (UTC)I haven't really researched into him, so I can't really say either way. I will admit you've made me very curious, however.
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Date: 2011-03-02 11:45 am (UTC)Social Network <3333333
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Date: 2011-03-03 11:53 pm (UTC)I'm pretty sure this is the case. ;)
Also, I love when you run into familiar "faces" in other fandoms. It makes me gleeful. :)
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Date: 2011-03-04 12:28 am (UTC)And what other fandoms are you into now? I remember you liked LoTR :)
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Date: 2011-03-04 02:41 am (UTC)I'm also really into the BBC show Merlin's fandom and kind of into the ABC show Castle's fandom (though that one is tiiiiny and not terribly active if you don't ship het). :)
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Date: 2011-03-04 02:57 pm (UTC)We don't get Castle over here, so I'm not familiar with it, though I know
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Date: 2011-03-04 11:24 pm (UTC)It's a cute little mystery show with great character writing too so I love it. :)
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Date: 2011-03-05 03:48 am (UTC)XD